Outcast-Angel Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Attempt Redemption by outcast-angel Tell me i'm real, so you can shut me out watch me fade so you don't have to care tell me i'm beautiful so i can tell when you lie leave me broken so i can't break on my own tell me i've hurt you so i can hurt myself more cut my mind open, redemption made in blood tell me i'm ordinary so i don't have to try let myself fall down in the dark once again tell me the story of the love of your life so i can look in the mirror and know it's not me tell me all the things a good girl should be so i'll know i'm not ideal, never could be tell me you're leaving so i'll have time to cry time to hate all the things in me to beg forgiveness when you can't hear to punish me more, things you'll never find out time to attempt redemption, commit sacrafice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 wow I love it i have felt that way many times.Very good work I'm sure alot of people can relate to it. I like it alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 thanks.. glad i'm not alone in feeling like that. not that i'd ever wish it on anyone.. just that misery loves company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoul Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Misery can make room on the couch for me. I liked it. Can really relate to it as well. Sad that we punish ourselves like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Misery can make room on the couch for me. I liked it. Can really relate to it as well. Sad that we punish ourselves like that. there's always room for one more on the couch, i guess. besides.. if we didn't punish ourselves, who would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 true ..weird misery group that's very true the best people to punish ourselfs is us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoul Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 People tend to be the hardest on themselves. It's weird but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 true ..weird misery group that's very true the best people to punish ourselfs is us i'm gunna have to point out that the only reason we're the best at punishing ourselves is because we know ourselves better than anyone else. so we can come up with things that effect us the most. not that i'm gunna encourage people to punish themselves in the way that i do. cause it's actually not healthy. but it's most effective for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 exactly We know what will hurt us the most so we focus on that and punish ourselfs in the way it will hurt most. Not a very good idea but I guess it makes sense. Naturally if I want to punish myself I duh punish myself and I try to get the people that I love the most to insult me or put me down so I can feel worse as Outcast-Angel said I do not encourage it but I sometimes can't help doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 I beleave that when you do want other people to punish you, you are actually reallly asking for thier help. MG once asked me to insult her - i didnt, but rather supported her and made her feel alot better by showing that i loved her so much. In the end she was much happier, and we even kissed (this was early days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 28, 2005 Author Share Posted December 28, 2005 I beleave that when you do want other people to punish you, you are actually reallly asking for thier help. MG once asked me to insult her - i didnt, but rather supported her and made her feel alot better by showing that i loved her so much. In the end she was much happier, and we even kissed (this was early days) of course i don't want other people to punish me. i just validate my emotions, and punish myself for anything i think is "wrong" or for thinking certain things.. my god, if others said or did half the things i do to myself, i probably would have succeeded in suicide by now. i need others to treat me normally, or i tend to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoul Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Might not be the case for Outcast-Angel, but what Dreg is saying is true for some people. There way of hurting themselves is to get others to hurt them, thus validating their feelings of being lonely, miserable, or worthless. Either way, its not good for a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Shy Soul is right as I said before I do not encourage it but I sometimes do it but most of the people I ask don't want to put me down, others obey my request and do it In the end you still end up with mixed emotions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Usually when MG does, she asks me, and i support her and quickly get her out of it. I think she asks me because she knows i can get her out every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Usually when MG does, she asks me, and i support her and quickly get her out of it. I think she asks me because she knows i can get her out every time. aws! that's really sweet, and i agree with you.. she probably is aware of it at least subconsciously.. it's uber-cool that you support her so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forsythia Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 You inspire Outcast-Angel. I went thru a terrible break-up & she left me for a much younger woman. Your words ring true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 You inspire Outcast-Angel. I went thru a terrible break-up & she left me for a much younger woman. Your words ring true. i'm so sorry to hear that.. a breakup can be traumatic enough on its own.. but when they replace you so quickly, it brings to mind doubt that they cared for you at all.. just remember that in the end, it's her loss! and you are deserving of someone who'll actually appreciate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForAnother Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I don't know if you want critiques, and by all means I am not a good poet myself... But here is my critique: I loved the ideas in the poem... however the execution isn't as successful. If you take the general idea of it "tell me I am worthless so I don't have to doubt my worthlessness" and kind of make a flow of it, I think it could be A LOT more powerful than it already is. -ForAnother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outcast-Angel Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 I don't know if you want critiques, and by all means I am not a good poet myself... But here is my critique: I loved the ideas in the poem... however the execution isn't as successful. If you take the general idea of it "tell me I am worthless so I don't have to doubt my worthlessness" and kind of make a flow of it, I think it could be A LOT more powerful than it already is. -ForAnother critique is always welcome and appreciated.. thank you. i agree, i have trouble with the flow sometimes... any other pointer would be muchly appreciated^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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