sentencedtoagony Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 She's in her early 20s, I'm early 30s. We've gotten along great, for over a year...until her libido started diminishing and I got increasingly more frustrated. One day I just got really mad about it and we argued. We didn't talk much for a couple days. Then she said she thinks she needs to leave and find herself. Is there anything I can do to salvage this? It's our only real major disagreement we've ever had. We live together and have many shared accounts, etc. She was all about us getting in deep together. This happened once before. She is very sensitive. Last time she just bailed without a word, no explanation. She has been raped, 3 different occasions from what she's told me. That's how she lost her virginity. I have always been sympathetic and tried to help, but I lost my cool at seeing our sex life degrade over time. Part of me thinks it's her birth control, or at least it's compounding problems that are already there. Mood swings, decreased libido, even stomach pains...she gets all of that. I think it's her pill contributing to that, but she says it's just who she is now. Anyway, got any advice? Accept my fate? We are still doing the daily routines together, but I can tell there's a wall up with her. The subtleties of the end are bleeding through her behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DN Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 How was she raped three times - same person or different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 She was raised to be anything but cautious. Different, all strangers, all within 6 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DN Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It seems she was unusually unfortunate. In any event, how long are you prepared to tolerate the current situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 We agreed to wait til the end of the month to make any decision. But it already feels over. I'm just trying to repair this thing. But it seems I may be alone in that effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DN Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 What might change in a month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Anything, I suppose. It seems really dramatic turn of events for an argument. I'm just trying to figure out what the appropriate action for me is. I want to try to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I have been a victim of rape as well. I know for me if someone adds anger in the same context as sex, even in an argument about sex, it is enough to set off alarm bells. It causes flash backs to when you were victimized. I am not saying that you victimized her or that you do not have a right to the sex life you would like, only to be aware that is a really vile crime and it affects almost all aspects of a person's life. It could be that she had flash backs and just does not want to deal with it, so she is avoiding her relationship with you. I am not really sure how to advise you other than to maybe apologize for bringing anger and sex into the same context and explain you will try to be more sensitive about it. How a rape survivor feels about sex is immensely complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm sorry that you had to deal with that. SHe explained to me in some detail what happened. It torments my thoughts as well. Sometimes, in the beginning of our relationship, she would cry during sex and we'd stop. I understood and I still do. It seemed like we were moving forward though, but now regressing again. It was wrong for me to argue over it but it's hard to see that triggering a break up since we get along great and never argue like we did this one time. I don't know what to do. I've apologized and tried to talk it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 There will be times of regression. It is not something one ever "gets over" and one day you are ok. But you do get better over time especially with therapy and help and understanding. I have no idea where she is in her healing but it sounds where I was about 22 years ago. I used to sob and sob and sob too, for about a year. I slowly got better with it over time. But even now I can not have sex and anger in the same context. It just puts me in a black out where my brain does not function. Where it feels like you can not see or hear and you can not even control your limbs. I would say to be patient and give it time. You have apologized and maybe with a little patience it will get better. Sex is very threatening for a great number of rape survivors, even the emotions with it good or bad. Just try not to add anger into the mix in the same context. That is a horror because of rapists use anger and violence as a means of control and sadism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Yeah, she has described feeling like she is detached from her body or that space is distorted. I really love her. I want to help. I want her to enjoy life. I want to be with her. But I don't know if it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 That is very common for her to feel like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thanks Victoria. I think at some point I started taking it personally, like she didn't like me anymore. Your input helped me to understand a bit better. We had a long talk and I feel better about Our future. I only hope she does as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You're welcome. Yes, I know it is hard. These feelings she has are not about you, but about her experience. Unfortunately these feelings become intertwined with every day life and affect every day life. Some times too they are hard to separate from things happening in the present. Kind of get what I mean? I am glad you feel more positive about your future together! I know it is very hard but have patience and really try to see this is not about you, but about herself and what she had experienced. As she heals more and more and she sees your patience and love she will recover more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Do you think psychotherapy would help? She is sort of entertaining the idea, though a little bit apprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 It does help some people and some people do not like it. It is hard to know unless she tries. But processing what happened to her on her own is not usually good. I am of the opinion therapy does help but you have to find a therapist who can help and who you trust and who works with you specifically. Don't just go with the first person unless you mesh with them well. Don't go to one and not have a good experience and assume therapy is of no use. See what I mean? I can see why she would be afraid though because no one wants to relive horrific things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilliesFan001 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's difficult not to take it personally but you have to remember it isn't about you - she has issues she needs to deal with. She should probably try to get professional help. If she doesn't then I don't think the relationship is going to be good for either of you. You shouldn't have to put up with less than you deserve in a relationship, including a fulfilling sex life, and she shouldn't have to feel guilty or upset over her lack of libido or trauma. Perhaps it would be better if she healed on her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Yeah. I was hoping to both save our relationship and restore her well being. I throw the idea of therapy out there occasionally, without being too pressuring. SHe subtley indicates that she's moved by my concern, but doesn't respond verbally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay_home Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I think she needs to seek the help of a therapist who perhaps can help her through her ordeal. Because if she was really raped three times within a six month period, that's a very traumatic experience to endure first of all, but three times in six months by three different strangers and circumstances, wow. It could be that she needs to work on some of the issues that are bothering her before the relationship can go any further. I think for right now, you need to forget about sex and do whatever you can to help her deal with some of the problems she's having. Mainly through support, be supportive. So no sex for a while, or you'll just have to bite the bullet and break things off if this really bothers you that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 I've read that someone who is raped is more prone to it happening again. Plus, she wasn't really taught to be cautious as a child. I've already found a therapist. I just have to get her to try at least one session. And, yeah, no sex for 2 weeks and I haven't said a word. I get a kiss every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Even with my good intentions, it appears she is going to move out. My patience and love have been voided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Maybe she realizes she needs to work on herself alone? I would not say your love has been voided. Maybe she realizes she can not give you what you deserve until she works on herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 But doesn't going away pretty much do that? I'm trying to provide a situation where she can do what she needs to do, without leaving. Why couldn't it work that way? We all have things to work on; why can't we do that with our significant others? It seems that it's over once she goes. She leaves --> I cry and grieve and long for her, my mind invents scenarios of her being blissful with someone else --> I reach a point of hitting bottom, getting angry for her leaving me --> My brain's defense turns her into a faint memory I don't want it to be this way, but that seems to be what happens. Is she going to fix her problems in a month? Probably not, especially without therapy. It's probably going to take her years. I just don't want to let her go. I'm going to be so sad. I already am. I don't know if I'm perpetuating the end, but it's been hard to be happy since she suggested bailing. She's still saying she's confused. But it offers me no reassurance. My gut is saying that she's leaving and it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The thing is she is not going to fix her problems in a month or even a few years. She may have problems FOREVER. I was sexually assaulted at 6,11,13, and 19. When I was a child these were over months at a time. I am 45 now and I STILL have problems. Therapy is not to cure all her ills , it gives her tools on how to cope and it gives her her voice that was taken away.This is a LIFETIME process. Are you ready for it? Maybe she is trying to save you from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentencedtoagony Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yes, I understand that. But how can I make her understand? She stares off into space when I tell her I want to be with her through everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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